aC forum: Fork? http://www.activecollab.com/forums/topic/1949/ Recent posts on topic: Fork? en-us Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:52:35 UTC http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/10986/#post10986 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/10986/#post10986 Post #12 by gmoyle gmoyle I understand there are conflicting opinions regarding the direction this project has gone, but I wanted to put in my 2 cents.

This project has transformed how I manage my projects in my corporation. Granted, I was upset when I saw the initial pay model proposal. I was somewhat pleased when it changed and was happy to pay for the upgrade. This program makes my life so much easier.

I would have paid regardless of whether is was a pay for support (i.e. mysql or sugarcms) or pay for the app. Its a wonderful application, and for the price, I think its well worth it.

I know the debate will go on, but as a user and supporter (and I mean financially) of many open source projects I can say this one so far, has been top notch for me.

]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:28:16 UTC http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/10423/#post10423 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/10423/#post10423 Post #11 by edjolanski edjolanski I just wanted to add that if the developers who contributed to this project released their source code freely, without license or copyright, then they can do whatever they want. If, however, the authors released their source code under the GPL or a similar, true Open Source license, then this project CAN'T be made private, the source must be released along with it until the company secures permission from every developer that contributed to the software, or replaces all contributed code with their own. I would highly suggest that if developers are worried about code they contributed, they find get a copy of the 1.0 source code and make sure nothing they wrote is in there.

]]> Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:06:48 UTC http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/10361/#post10361 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/10361/#post10361 Post #10 by Brady J. Frey Brady J. Frey I think the point he's trying to make is that some developers feel like they were putting their personal time supporting an open source project, as many of us have done for other welcomed projects, only to be turned into a commercial entity. The idea is that activeCollab could be exploiting that communities momentum, only to turn into a similar entity to Basecamp and goplan.

I've worked on both open source, and have paid my fees for the high end system (splunk comes to mind) - but this is the first time I've see the intention to become a commercial project masked until the projects 1.0 launch. The arguement isn't the usability, the cost, or the value of the software fitzage; the arguement is the hush, and debatably deceptive manner... I'll check the blog, maybe I missed an announcement, but I'm just as disappointed, and I'm willing to pay for quality software. Call it principle, not a debate of value.

]]> Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:17:12 UTC http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9245/#post9245 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9245/#post9245 Post #9 by fitzage fitzage I'm only here because version 1 isn't open source and has actually been turned into a usable system.

I tried the open source version and didn't like it. At all.

The new version is fully within the rights of the developer, and if you wanted to go make your own fork and profit from it you'd be welcome to do so. Again, I point out that the open source version has not gone away. It's still there and still as full-fledged as it ever was. If it's usable to you (as it's not to me) then use it, modify it, and do whatever.

]]> Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:42:00 UTC http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9244/#post9244 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9244/#post9244 Post #8 by rambo rambo Open source project should start free and keep the code open, and should continue free and keep the code open. Shouldn't have to fork every time someone wants to get paid. A lot more people than Ilija have worked on this project (although I have been tracking this and do understand he has done the bulk of the work.) He has benefited from many people's efforts here. Where is their compensation from the new business model? They thought they were contributing to open source. Would you even be here if this project wasn't open source? A complete user base has been established based on the assumption the project was open source. This method of starting as open source, then going commercial with the project is a bad trend. It undermines confidence in open source projects. I appreciate any contributions to this discussion.

]]> Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:37:22 UTC http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9242/#post9242 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9242/#post9242 Post #7 by lighty lighty Free version? Don't wait for christmas, Santa's planning to take some days off drinking piña coladas in Miami :p

]]> Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:13:21 UTC http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9241/#post9241 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9241/#post9241 Post #6 by fitzage fitzage The "once free and open project" is still free and open. It appears that the new one isn't even based on the same codebase, but I could be wrong. At any rate, you have what you always had. So what's the bitching for?

YAAAWWWWN

]]> Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:10:53 UTC http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9237/#post9237 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9237/#post9237 Post #5 by rambo rambo
isaiah:
If you don't need (want to pay for) the extra stuff in AC 1.0 why not use AC 0.7 or one of the AC 0.7 forks that are already out there? Some of us run companies and spending $400 for a good project management systems isn't much.


Not the point Isaiah. It is not a pricing issue. It is starting a project as open source, utilizing people's talents and efforts in collaboration on that open source, then closing it and commercializing it. This undermines the open source movement. Why should any of use involve ourselves in the core on these projects if the future holds personal enrichment for the few insiders.

]]> Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:57:29 UTC http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9234/#post9234 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9234/#post9234 Post #4 by isaiah isaiah I think http://www.opengoo.org/ is another fork of AC 0.7. I've played around with both openGoo and ProjectPier - they are both nice if you want something that is free. However, I don't see them as a replacement for ActiveCollab 1.0 for people that don't mind paying for the extra features!

]]> Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:52:46 UTC http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9232/#post9232 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/9232/#post9232 Post #3 by isaiah isaiah If you don't need (want to pay for) the extra stuff in AC 1.0 why not use AC 0.7 or one of the AC 0.7 forks that are already out there? Some of us run companies and spending $400 for a good project management systems isn't much.

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