aC forum: Reorganizeable Task List http://www.activecollab.com/forums/topic/2708/ Recent posts on topic: Reorganizeable Task List en-us Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:02:42 CDT http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15177/#post15177 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15177/#post15177 Post #36 by cansado cansado I understand, can we plan a solution for these today? Maybe more priority levels?

]]> Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:28:22 CDT http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15169/#post15169 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15169/#post15169 Post #35 by Ilija Studen Ilija Studen
reggy1:
It's marketing. Why release anything when you have a whole wave of early adapters who bought in right away? Why not wait until their year of free updates us up, and then release the much requested upgrades right after, so the folks will shell out another couple hundred bucks each?


Now that 1.1.4 is out, I can comment on this. Decision to include a specific feature in a release may be influenced based on number of Upgrade and Support renewals it would "harvest", but that is one of the least important reasons. Although it is there as one of the variables in the equation, we NEVER base our decisions on it. No matter when we add something, we will always have a constant stream of upgrades because that is how activeCollab licensing is structured.

Most important reason why feature may be excluded from a specific release or a branch is because it does not fit or we do not have "platform capacity" to do it right.

Let me explain on an example.

Subscription improvements added to 1.1.4 are important. They make the life easier for ALL activeCollab users because they make things going unnoticed less likely to happen. That is HUGE, but from technical perspective, it was easy to make because this change does not bring any radical changes to the system. Only default behavior is changed (smart defaults vs configuration) and although it has huge impact, it was easily implemented and just works.

Reordering tasks is also huge, but it requires a whole lot more work. It requires changes to both tickets and checklists, jQuery UI (not available in v1.1.x) and A LOT of testing. Reason why task reordering will not be added to 1.1 is not because we want to make a quick buck from upgrades and support renewal, but because it would make 1.1 unstable. Feature of this complexity is added only after proper beta testing, and never to something that is stable for a couple of months and should remain that way until new version comes.

Because of that, this type of feature needs to wait for major update that will go through at lease several weeks of beta testing. These major releases take time to be developed, and, as before, they do not take that long because we are lazy or want to make a quick buck, but because there is a LOT OF WORK that needs to be done.

It would be really bad if we had a release every week or had a constantly unstable system because we keep adding things like crazy. Task reordering is something that will be added at some point in the future, but not in activeCollab 1.1. Reason - 1.1 branch stability. It's been stable for the past couple of months and we plan to keep it that way.

]]> Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:34:04 CDT http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15168/#post15168 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15168/#post15168 Post #34 by Colin | Rocket No. 9 Colin | Rocket No. 9 We would love this functionality too! Both the draggable tasks/projects/etc and more priority levels.

]]> Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:33:44 CDT http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15163/#post15163 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15163/#post15163 Post #33 by junomedia junomedia I definitely add our +1 to this. We recently took on a project that had 195 tasks and the client who wished to re-order their priority and assignees had to go through and manually edit each one in various tabs.

Comments on tasks, and tasks assigned to tickets are others on our wishlist. Clients who create tickets for support often have multiple things they want doing by multiple people. A checklist or tasks added inline by us after they've posted the ticket would make this process much simpler.

]]> Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:10:24 CDT http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15084/#post15084 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15084/#post15084 Post #32 by cyandesign cyandesign
reggy1:
Too bad Casando,

It's marketing. Why release anything when you have a whole wave of early adapters who bought in right away? Why not wait until their year of free updates us up, and then release the much requested upgrades right after, so the folks will shell out another couple hundred bucks each?


Sad but seems like it could be true, as we were an early adapter and our year is coming up :(

]]> Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:40:54 CDT http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15033/#post15033 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15033/#post15033 Post #31 by Ilija Studen Ilija Studen
cyandesign:
Are we just wasting our time waiting for this?


No, you are not wasting your time, but I really cannot provide any details at this point.

As I mentioned many times before, we comment on future features only when they are ready for testing or at least close to testing phase or we keep them as a surprise. It proved to work just fine.

]]> Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:54:08 CDT http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15030/#post15030 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15030/#post15030 Post #30 by cansado cansado
reggy1:
Too bad Casando,

It's marketing. Why release anything when you have a whole wave of early adapters who bought in right away? Why not wait until their year of free updates us up, and then release the much requested upgrades right after, so the folks will shell out another couple hundred bucks each?


Great appointment, a little bit cruel, but realistic :p. However I hope this wont happen because I think me and maybe some of you wouldnt pay another time only for having something that since you bought it you expected to have. Because its obvious!

]]> Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:17:39 CDT http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15029/#post15029 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15029/#post15029 Post #29 by reggy1 reggy1 Too bad Casando,

It's marketing. Why release anything when you have a whole wave of early adapters who bought in right away? Why not wait until their year of free updates us up, and then release the much requested upgrades right after, so the folks will shell out another couple hundred bucks each?

]]> Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:35:28 CDT http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15028/#post15028 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/15028/#post15028 Post #28 by cyandesign cyandesign I too would appreciate knowing.

I appreciate the fact that you do not want to disclose what you are working on. But this has been a very popular feature request for quite some time now.

Are we just wasting our time waiting for this?

]]> Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:22:05 CDT http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/14990/#post14990 http://www.activecollab.com/forums/post/14990/#post14990 Post #27 by cansado cansado +1

I think AC is bad focused. If its a Project Manager System not a Ticket System, tasks, checklists and planification should be the most important part. AC at the moment has Ticket as an improved module of Tasks and its not! A project have checklists because there is an order of doing things, in most cases task 1 must be completed to do task 2 and because of these is FUNDAMENTAL to reorder tasks.

Another things are tickets, that are "requests of doing something", they come during the day to day work and its not so important to order but yes to prioritize them.

Why do you think we requested so much project templates? Because we need to plan and stablish an order, a list of thinks to do since we start until we finished.


So you can imagine the caos I have at the moment I explain you my AC: All tasks into 5 tickets considered as phases sorted by priority (only way)

Ticket 1: Max: Phase 1- Planning

Ticket 2: High: Phase 2- Design
- Task 1: Design Home page
- Task 2: Design Subpages
- Task N:...

Ticket 3: Normal: Phase 3 - Progamm
- Task 1: XHTML / CSS Home page
- Task 2: XHTML / CSS Design subpages
- Task N:...

Ticket 4: Low: Phase 4 -

Ticket 5: Min: Phase 5 -

And into each one all the tasks. This is because if i have 40 tickets and if i need to put one after task 23 i have to erase and recreate all to maintain the order. These way I only have to erase and recreate the ones into each phase. Can you imagine doing these each week? These tool should be TIME EARNING and at the moment its complicating me.

I regret having changed from Basecamp to AC only for this lack. We are talking of something so important and obvious that is illogical to be asking for it for a tool that costs 399$!!!.

Please consider this as a necessary and urgent update. I think all of us are waiting to you to tell us if you are going to do it or not to make a decision and dont waste time. And... so we now if we would need to pay another $199 to get it if my update account expires before you launch the update.

Thanks,

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